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What games would you consider objectively some of the greatest ever made? or a top 100.

To clarify I don't mean nostalgic to you, but either if it has objectively excelled in Music and artistic Merit, storyline, or gameplay compared to the rest. If it was to be looked at from a scholarly point of view.

With movies we have Shawshank Redemption, citizen kane, and the Godfather etc.. And most recently the Joker. Etc.. Just to name a few.

And with books with have the odyssey, the divine comedy, east of eden, 1984 etc..



With video games it encompasses much more than either of these formats. So we can't really make one solid list.

So it should it be split into the below.

1. Storyline  - A separate list with the greatest stories ever told in the video game medium.

2. Music and Artistic Merit/ Graphical presentation

3. Gameplay - I think the list would range from old to modern saying it's something that is consistent with video games.


I could suggest some candidates for a hypothetical list.

Storyline

- Halo
- Starcraft
- Silent hill 2 (perhaps)
- I have no mouth and I must scream


Music and Artistic Merit/ Graphical presentation

- Skyrim
- Oblivion
- Sekiro
- Street Fighter 2
- Chrono Trigger
- Silent Hill
- Ico
- DOOM
- Final Fantasy X

Gameplay

-DOOM
-Pac man

Hmm.. There's a lot.













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Re: What games would you consider objectively some of the greatest ever made?
« Reply #1 on: February 14, 2020, 12:07:46 pm »
Gameplay:
Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
Mega Man X
Portal 2
Resident Evil 4
Super Mario 64
Super Mario Galaxy
Super Mario World
Super Metroid

Story:
999: Nine Hours, Nine Persons, Nine Doors
BioShock
BioShock 2
BioShock Infinite
Final Fantasy VII
Final Fantasy IX
Final Fantasy X
The Walking Dead: A Telltale Series

Music/Graphics:
Kirby's Epic Yarn
Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker
Resident Evil 2 (2019 Remake)

Re: What games would you consider objectively some of the greatest ever made?
« Reply #2 on: February 14, 2020, 12:10:36 pm »
Gameplay:
Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
Mega Man X
Portal 2
Resident Evil 4
Super Mario 64
Super Mario Galaxy
Super Mario World
Super Metroid

Story:
999: Nine Hours, Nine Persons, Nine Doors
BioShock
BioShock 2
BioShock Infinite
Final Fantasy VII
Final Fantasy IX
Final Fantasy X
The Walking Dead: A Telltale Series

Music/Graphics:
Kirby's Epic Yarn
Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker
Resident Evil 2 (2019 Remake)"




I agree with all of them except Bioshock 2. It's story was alright but not as good as the rest of the series.


Re: What games would you consider objectively some of the greatest ever made?
« Reply #3 on: February 14, 2020, 12:55:26 pm »
Gameplay:
Super Mario Bros 3
Sim City
Tetris

Story:
The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind
EarthBound

Music:
Final Fantasy VI

Re: What games would you consider objectively some of the greatest ever made?
« Reply #4 on: February 14, 2020, 01:53:00 pm »
The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
Chrono Trigger
Final Fantasy X
Super Mario 64
Gran Turismo 4
Mario Kart 8
The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild
Doom (1993 and 2016)

Re: What games would you consider objectively some of the greatest ever made?
« Reply #5 on: February 14, 2020, 03:07:24 pm »
The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
Chrono Trigger
Final Fantasy X
Super Mario 64
Gran Turismo 4
Mario Kart 8
The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild
Doom (1993 and 2016)
Artistic?


Re: What games would you consider objectively some of the greatest ever made?
« Reply #6 on: February 14, 2020, 04:47:01 pm »
The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
Chrono Trigger
Final Fantasy X
Super Mario 64
Gran Turismo 4
Mario Kart 8
The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild
Doom (1993 and 2016)
Artistic?


Overall in every way.

Re: What games would you consider objectively some of the greatest ever made?
« Reply #7 on: February 14, 2020, 06:35:20 pm »
I can't really think of the greatest games ever made but I'll just name some I can think of that I loved in my Lifetime

Music

1: Halo series Xbox Consoles
2: Call Of Duty: Finest Hour PS2 and GameCube
3: Original Doom Series PC and Super Nintendo
4: Duke Nukem 3D PC version
5: Tiger Woods PGA Tour 2003 PS2
6: Mech Warrior 2 Series PC
7: Heavy Gear For The PC

Gameplay

1: Halo Series for Xbox Consoles
2: Doom Series PC and Super Nintendo
3: Most Of The Tiger Woods Game Ever Made for the PlayStation Consoles
4: Call Of Duty 2: Big Red One both GameCube and PS2
5: Microsoft Links 2004 for Xbox Original
6: Super Mario Kart Super Nintendo Classic
7: Heavy Gear PC
8: Mech Warrior 2 31st Century Combat PS1

Story

1: Star Craft PC
2: Halo Xbox's
3: Heavy Gear PC
4: Original Duke Nukem Trilogy 1&2 and 3D PC
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Re: What games would you consider objectively some of the greatest ever made?
« Reply #8 on: February 14, 2020, 10:01:27 pm »
Story

Ace Combat 4
Halo
Allen Wake
Oblivion
Final Fantasy X
Bio Shock
Gears of War

Music

Streets of Rage
Legend of Zelda Ocarina of time
Super Mario World


Gameplay

Super Mario 64
Resident Evil
Punch-out
Fallout 3,4,Vegas
Forza 2
SSX Tricky

Re: What games would you consider objectively some of the greatest ever made?
« Reply #9 on: February 15, 2020, 12:44:10 am »
In no particular order. 

Borderlands 2
Final Fantasy Tactics
Super Mario RPG
Legend of Zelda, A Link to the Past
Super Mario World
Final Fantasy IV / Final Fantasy II US
Oblivion
Skyrim
Red Dead Redemption
Grand Theft Auto III
StarCraft
Unreal Tournament
Doom
Diablo
Tetris
Street Fighter II
Final Fantasy XII
Horizon Zero Dawn
Age of Empires
Dungeon Siege
Wing Commander II
Privateer
Sonic the Hedgehog
Pac-man

Off of the top of my head I’d consider those.  There is more I’m sure so I may edit my post later. 



Re: What games would you consider objectively some of the greatest ever made?
« Reply #10 on: February 15, 2020, 11:58:47 am »
The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
Chrono Trigger
Final Fantasy X
Super Mario 64
Gran Turismo 4
Mario Kart 8
The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild
Doom (1993 and 2016)
Artistic?


Overall in every way.
Did you read the description even?


Re: What games would you consider objectively some of the greatest ever made?
« Reply #11 on: February 15, 2020, 06:21:59 pm »
Story

Red Dead Redemption 2


Gameplay

Red Dead Redemption 2


Music


Red Dead Redemption 2



wolfen

Re: What games would you consider objectively some of the greatest ever made?
« Reply #12 on: February 17, 2020, 01:30:21 am »
I'm just gonna list em, no categories.

Wind Waker
Super Mario Galaxy
Breath of the Wild
Red Dead Redemption
The Last Guardian
God of War(PS4)
Dragon Quest XI
Sonic Mania
Skyrim
The Binding of Isaac
Mario Kart 8 Deluxe
Super Mario Odyssey
FEZ
Nintendo Land (criminally underrated)
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Re: What games would you consider objectively some of the greatest ever made?
« Reply #13 on: February 17, 2020, 11:47:58 am »
I don't think anything can be considered "objectively" the greatest. Everyone's greatest or favorite game is based on one's personal opinion or experience.

Objective means "not influenced by personal feelings or opinions in considering and representing facts".
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Re: What games would you consider objectively some of the greatest ever made?
« Reply #14 on: February 17, 2020, 11:56:17 am »
I don't think anything can be considered "objectively" the greatest. Everyone's greatest or favorite game is based on one's personal opinion or experience.

Objective means "not influenced by personal feelings or opinions in considering and representing facts".
We have the greatest movies list of 100 or 250 or so spread out. Either chosen by professionals in the field or the public.  Most of them come across as mostly consistent with minor overlap. Maybe you couldn't define something different among truly the best games. But it wouldn't be hard to see a clear difference among the bottom of the barrel to mediocre.  Just like theres a measurable difference between someone with an IQ of 80 vs 120 or so but not much difference between 110 and 120 or so? Good and evil? Beauty? Truth and injustice? We have a loose idea of this no? Some vagueness sure but I think most could agree.


https://letterboxd.com/momsaysitsok/list/r-truefilm-canon-complete-list/by/release-earliest/

https://letterboxd.com/top10ner/list/top10ners-1001-greatest-movies-of-all-time/page/2/

https://www.imdb.com/list/ls026336113/?st_dt=&mode=grid&page=3&ref_=ttls_vw_grd&sort=user_rating,desc

https://letterboxd.com/mlofferosky/list/sight-and-sound-top-250-critics-list-2012/page/3/

https://www.reddit.com/r/movies/comments/3hbiio/update_1001_greatest_movies_of_all_time_plus/


This one for books which is consistent and taught in schools, if it didn't have some objective quality they wouldn't bother teaching it as a classic?

https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/18796.The_ACTUAL_100_Best_Novels_of_the_20th_Century


It's pretty consistent. I believe there should be a list for video games in the coming decades that's more serious or with more consideration to a standard rather than a nostalgic kick. More scholarly. Something someone would study or want to be cultured with video games. We might be able to consider it a art form or more meaningful culture than disposable entertainment or degenerate forgettable activity one day.

I'm getting older and prefer to find more meaning or beauty in games than something I'm just killing time with personally. But it's not invalid to do so or wrong to do so, and games are many things compared to books or movies as I said. So I really think artistic merit and design should be split with something purely gameplay based (i.e fun). Not that they cant be both or overlap. But if you just put them together you're going to be stuck in a situation where you have a game purely based on gameplay with either a trash storyline or none to speak vs something with serious narrative and dialogue exploring the human condition and soul vs a plumber chasing some princess eating mushrooms? It would be absurd to put them together on the same list.

As you saw above he listed Red Dead Redemption in all 3 categorises. I wouldn't disagree it sounds accurate to me. 




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