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GOG Box Art Getting Rejected?
« on: Today at 10:49:41 am »
I just submitted box art for some GOG games which were rejected for reasons I'm not clear about. For example, I submitted this box art for Goodbye Deponia which I got from GOG.com and received this rejection notice: "Art for digital entries should obtained from the digital storefront in question. So, in this case, GOG.com. The correct image is found from GOG search results or from third-party website gog.org. Notice the image dimension differences."



Thinking it was the landscape orientation that was the problem, I then submitted this portrait-oriented artwork, also from GOG.com, which got rejected as "Incorrect Box Art."



These images both came from GOG.com like the rejection notes say they should, so I don't understand why they're getting rejected.

dhaabi

Re: GOG Box Art Getting Rejected?
« Reply #1 on: Today at 11:10:04 am »
First, the third-party website mentioned in the Admin Comments should be gogdb.org.

Since you recently have been submitting high numbers of image edits, my intent when rejecting the recent batch of submissions was to point out which images are actually correct and should be used. Now, images for digital entry should not be taken hastily from search engine results like what you're doing. Instead, they should be taken directly from the website, or in the case of GOG entries, the aforementioned third-party website. This is because each digital storefront has unique image dimensions that separate their games from other storefronts.

So, let me use another GOG entry from your collection as an example that is both on GOG and Steam to better illustrate.

Below is the Steam artwork for Afterlife, taken directly from its Steam store page.


Meanwhile, here is the GOG artwork (scaled down for viewing purposes), taken directly from search results or from gogdb.


Using the correct artwork for digital entries is outlined in Digital Games section of the style guide.


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Box art for digital games has their own set of rules, and are as follows:
  • Games from the big digital distribution stores (XBLA, Nintendo eShop, GOG, Steam, DotEmu exclusive games) get their own cover.

Re: GOG Box Art Getting Rejected?
« Reply #2 on: Today at 11:37:54 am »
First, the third-party website mentioned in the Admin Comments should be gogdb.org.

What's the difference between gogdb.org and gog.com?


Since you recently have been submitting high numbers of image edits, my intent when rejecting the recent batch of submissions was to point out which images are actually correct and should be used. Now, images for digital entry should not be taken hastily from search engine results like what you're doing. Instead, they should be taken directly from the website, or in the case of GOG entries, the aforementioned third-party website. This is because each digital storefront has unique image dimensions that separate their games from other storefronts.

I feel the need to point out that I was not "[taking images] hastily from search engine results". I made sure that the images I was downloading were directly from gog.com (see the first two results from this Google search for an example).

« Last Edit: Today at 11:40:56 am by kidtdragon »

dhaabi

Re: GOG Box Art Getting Rejected?
« Reply #3 on: Today at 11:46:35 am »
First, the third-party website mentioned in the Admin Comments should be gogdb.org.

What's the difference between gogdb.org and gog.com?

From gogdb.org directly:

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Welcome to the GOG Database, a third-party website that collects data on GOG games and tries to display it in a user-friendly manner.

I simply mentioned gogdb.org since it's an alternative to gathering the correct images, alongside reporting other correct data that GOG themselves incorrectly list (largely release date information.)

I feel the need to point out that I was not "[taking images] hastily from search engine results". I made sure that the images I was downloading were directly from gog.com (see the first two results from this Google search) for an example.

Neither of the two images from your original post are actually present on GOG's store page. Instead, those Google results images are just links to it. In fact, GOG store pages only showcase screenshots and trailers which should be avoided to use as entry art, which is why I mentioned that correct images can instead be taken from GOG search results pages when using the official site.

tripredacus

Re: GOG Box Art Getting Rejected?
« Reply #4 on: Today at 12:07:04 pm »
I always found it weird that game entries on Gog don't actually have the game art (that we are looking for) on the game pages. They can show up, but the art we want is from their store listings. Like this one:

https://www.gog.com/en/game/goodbye_deponia
The game cover art is only visible on the item in the "Buy Series" section. So this would probably also show up in search results or a store browing page on their site.

Other games that aren't in a series, the art isn't on the page at all like this one:
https://www.gog.com/en/game/the_shivah

DB Mods can be more stringent on these things than me.  :P
I probably accepted a "wrong" art edit from you today actually.  :-X

PS: thanks for the work you do try to help us with kidtdragon. I know you do (did? I ghosted lol) a lot on shmax also, sites like these can only exist with the work of volunteers.
« Last Edit: Today at 12:10:39 pm by tripredacus »

dhaabi

Re: GOG Box Art Getting Rejected?
« Reply #5 on: Today at 12:20:37 pm »
DB Mods can be more stringent on these things than me.  :P
I probably accepted a "wrong" art edit from you today actually.  :-X

PS: thanks for the work you do try to help us with kidtdragon. I know you do (did? I ghosted lol) a lot on shmax also, sites like these can only exist with the work of volunteers.

I'm fairly lenient about approving the "wrong" art for digital entries too when they're the single or occasional submission. But when a single member's submissions start to become a habit, then I take the opportunity to let them know since they'll likely be submitting more edits in the future. If the time is being spent on numerous entries to supply information, it may as well be correct.

And it's not my intention to minimize any person's edit submissions regardless if they're approved or not. All work is appreciated.
« Last Edit: Today at 12:24:57 pm by dhaabi »

Re: GOG Box Art Getting Rejected?
« Reply #6 on: Today at 01:17:18 pm »
Neither of the two images from your original post are actually present on GOG's store page. Instead, those Google results images are just links to it. In fact, GOG store pages only showcase screenshots and trailers which should be avoided to use as entry art, which is why I mentioned that correct images can instead be taken from GOG search results pages when using the official site.

For what it's worth, this image is the one used in GOG Galaxy, and I've seen other GOG records here using similar portrait-oriented GOG Galaxy art. Should we only submit the images from gogdb.org?


PS: thanks for the work you do try to help us with kidtdragon. I know you do (did? I ghosted lol) a lot on shmax also, sites like these can only exist with the work of volunteers.

Long time no see! Happy to help! I'm still crankin' away at shmax, just thought I'd fill in some blanks that I saw in my collection here.

dhaabi

Re: GOG Box Art Getting Rejected?
« Reply #7 on: Today at 05:36:55 pm »
For what it's worth, this image is the one used in GOG Galaxy, and I've seen other GOG records here using similar portrait-oriented GOG Galaxy art. Should we only submit the images from gogdb.org?

Since GOG Galaxy is not the distribution storefront itself but instead just a collection app of sorts with connectivity to the store proper, I'm included to say that any images specific to GOG Galaxy shouldn't be prioritized when there are easier, and more direct, sources available to use. Also, we should not make future changes or new submissions based on previous entries, as there is an abundance of existing entries with incorrect data of all kinds including those related to image art such as the entries you're referring to. There is a lot of database work to do in terms of correcting data, but there are only so many people contributing such changes and, especially in regards to digital entries, there is not any urgency to correct them.

gogdb.org entry art and gog.com's search result art use the same exact image, so either source is fine to use.